The festival was over, and the populace were leaving. This year, Love Fields laid on a Monday takeaway breakfast. This was new and lined our stomachs for the drive home. I hope they repeat. Except we chose to have a walk around the festival site to see if there were any bargains to be picked up. It was amazing how tidy the site was, hardly any litter on the ground. Too early to see if all the tents were taken home. A dry festival, so there should be no excuse to leave anything behind.
Rod Stewart
Let us hope next year when Rod Stewart plays the Legends Slot, that the weather will be kind.
We picked up a coffee, and some cut price nuts from a vendor. A walk up to the stone circle where some diehards were still sitting around. I stopped to take some more photographs of the ‘Model Glastonbury’ by Bellas’s bridge. I do this most years.
We left and eventually took the queue out of the grounds. At Love fields, because we were in the posh part of the site, we did not have to wait and were quickly on to Pylle Road. Then we stopped, there was the hour drive up Pylle Road, each site and camper van site prioritised their vehicles onto the road. The further we travelled the faster we progressed.
This was the first year I never saw the owners of The Love Fields. Owen was about saying goodbye to the glampers, but we missed him.
Selina and Phil purchased me a bottle of gin from Love Fields, called ‘We are not Worthy‘ gin as a thank you.
Anyway, we have our tickets for next year and will be at Love Fields yet again. Too early to say who is playing, other than Rod Stewart (Legends slot) is confirmed on the Pyramid stage. You can keep a track on festival rumours at the efestivals site. Another excellent site is ClashFinder where Glastonbury is a core listing. I find ClashFinder so much easier to use than the official festival apps. It has an excellent mobile webapp which works without a mobile phone signal. (Assuming you have registered and loaded your itinerary). You can also keep notes on each act you watch, and that information is there for you to review later, and on your laptop or PC. For those who like a hardcopy itinerary, you can print it out.
Another dry morning, and after breakfast headed over to the West Holts stage to see an Irish band called Kneecap
Kneecap
I lasted 10 minutes with this Northern Ireland band, not my cup of tea, I couldn’t understand a word they sang or said. Not at all sure why they have a big following. So back to Pyramid via the Theatre and Circus area to see Ayra Star
Ayra Star
At the Pyramid stage I watched Ayra Star with her 10 backing singers. Very beautiful to watch, but not my style of singing.
Alogte Oho & His Sounds of Joy
Now at the West Holts stage to watch Alogte Oho & His Sounds of Joy. They are a Ghanian group, singing gospel, It improved as the set went on. I did leave a little early so I could see the Last Dinner Party at the Other stage.
Last Dinner Party
Saw the ‘Last Dinner Party’ last year when they were playing the first set at ‘Woodsies’ on Saturday. Now they have been promoted to the “Other Stage”. Missed the first part of their set, but made it to listen to quite a few songs. Excellent as before, especially now I can sing along to the chorus of ‘Nothing Matters‘
Circus Funtasia
Decided to watch Circus Funtasia, Selina had mentioned it from the previous day. The five motor bikes driving around the inside of a sphere was interesting. The next act, close to my heart, the man on stilts with chain saw.
Coldplay
Watched Coldplay with Selina and Phil. We were far back, so no chance of seeing Coldplay in the flesh, especially with the array of flags. A good crown around us enjoying the event with dancing around us, including a Scottish guy in kilt. Selina appears in the video below.
The day started with a good breakfast at The Love Fields. Lots of tea and coffee, bacon and eggs, cereal, and pastries. As we left, I did notice it was worth eating early, we missed the queues which had built up.
Joe Wicks
First event of the day for us was Joe Wicks. Selina and I joined the crowd to work out for 30 minutes. We didn’t join the queue for the selfie afterwards. There were several hundred exercising, the crowds stretched all the way back to the arch between the Circus and Cabaret fields. While we were exercising, Phil chatted to a couple of Glastonbury volunteers. We kept bumping into them throughout the event, and it wasn’t as if they worked in the Cabaret field.
Greenfields
Afterwards we all headed to Greenfields, which is very crowded on the Wednesdays and Thursdays. It is crowded because the area is running talks, craft tutorials, alternative technologies, and massages, while the main stages are not fully running until Friday. We listened to a talk about Hydrogen power and watched a small rocket being created and fuelled by hydrogen which was electrolysed from water.
A walk around the Stone Circle, exploring the hedges in the hope of spotting the location of the Piano Bar. We did see the dragons in the stream.
Walked around the craft areas, Selina went back at a later time to do some willow work.
Micheal Eavis
We split up, and I saw Michael Eavis on the Park stage singing ‘ My Way’ and others.
Jordan Watson at the Terminal
We all joined up again and visited Williams Green. I was always hopeful of hearing Fulu Miziki, but missed them again. We joined this long queue which would take us into this building where we thought there would be a good view of the site. The wait was ages, very slow moving and only a few people let in at a time. I assumed it was Health and Saftey running amock. Turned out that this was an art installation called The Terminal by Jordan Watson. It is an immersive art installation at Glastonbury Festival that parodied the UK’s immigration process. We were required to answer questions from “border force agents” and pass a UK citizenship test to gain entry. The installation featured a repurposed airport terminal with airport seats dotted with spikes, adding to the discomfort and highlighting the challenges faced by immigrants. At one stage we had to remove our shoes and walk over sharp stones.
On Wednesday, I set off to the Glastonbury Festival 2024, I was taking Selina and Phil to the festival. The first time for Phil, the third time for Selina (98, 99, 24) and the fourteenth time for me (98, 99, 09, 10, 11, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 19, 22, 23, 24). The only gap for me was between 1999 and 2009. The other gaps in the years were when Glastonbury had a fallow year or Covid circulated. We were going to be staying at a glamping site called Love Fields.
We set of at 10.30, stopping at Starbucks near Frome, intention of charging the car with some free BP electricity. Alas all chargers were in use. Arrived at The Love Fields just before 2. A note to myself, ignore Google Maps, it will see the holdups on the main roads around Glastonbury, and attempt to find a quicker route, this inevitably will take you down small single-track roads, and roads that are closed to non-residents during the festival.
I had booked a large Ash Yurt at The Love Fields for the three of us. This is in the VIP area, where there is a selection of accommodation at different costs. There are several bars in the VIP area, and other bars outside the VIP area, but still in Love Fields. There are a couple of stages are in the area, with some bands playing both here and in the main Glastonbury festival. I have always wondered if you could come to The Love Fields and not attend Glastonbury Festival.
The yurt came with electricity and double bed for Selina and Phil, and a single for me. Checking in was quick and easy, driving down to the yurt to unload, and then taking the car back the car park. Slight irritation was by the Friday, the parking was full, and some vehicles were parked in the driveways. We picked up our wrist bands and guides from reception. The glamping site is very convenient to the festival. Straight out of Love Fields and you are at Pedestrian Gate C to the festival. It is also not far to walk to the Pyramid stage. Many staying at the festival site would have a longer walk than us.
Not many bands are playing on the Wednesday, it’s an arrival day. We did go for a walk around the site so Phil and Selina could get their bearings. Met up with Ed for a pint at the Stonebridge bar and headed back to Love Fields to watch the fireworks. Missed Mary, she was initially coming to work, but unfortunately her brother had an accident a few days before, so she stayed behind to look after him.
There is an excellent view of the fireworks from Love Fields. We also got to see the drone display, a first for Glastonbury. To see this, we had to be in the upstairs bar in the “Barn”. I had a Negroni here, but timeline is hazy.
Afterward the fireworks I went for a walk around the site, visiting the Avalon bar, the Ribbon Tower, and then I headed over to Woodsies stage to see the new Tree Stage. Then it was back through the Wood, walking through the trees on a platform. Final walk back to Carhenge to see Fulu Miziki. A Congolese band that makes music from rubbish. Somehow missed them, but they are on again. Good to see Car Henge in the dark. Fabulous use of old American gas guzzling icons set up in the formation of Stone Henge. A nod to the origins of the new age travellers influence on Glastonbury. They had been cast out from Stone Henge in the Battle of Beanfield in 1985 .
This Wednesday, the weather was kind. It was sunny and warm. There had been several days break in the wet weather (we had been soaked at Download), and we were not going to receive any rain this weekend. There had been quite a lot of rain in the preceding weeks, but thankfully it had stopped, and the land had dried out to a considerable extent. Unfortunately, in preparation for continued rain, all the main stages had wood chippings laid out. This meant there was no lovely grass to sit down on at the West Holts stage.
It had been a lovely start to Glastonbury Festival 2024
Video from The Love Fields of the Glastonbury 2024 drone display.
This was my 13th Glastonbury Festival. I first started going to Glastonbury in 1998, and then 1999. I still have the T-shirts which I wore to Glastonbury. A few suitable comments were made by other festival goers. I took a break for a few years and started attending again. I’ve been to every Glastonbury held since 2009. The Glastonbury Festivals I have been to are 1998, 1999, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2013, 2014 ,2015, 2016, 2017, 2019, 2022, 2023.
This year was another dry Glastonbury. A week or so before Glastonbury, showers were expected during the show. As the date neared, the rain disappeared from the forecasts. Those who arrived on Tuesday were rained upon. I arrived on Wednesday, and it was dry and hot throughout the whole festival, with only one exception of a very small shower early on Monday morning.
I drove to Glastonbury in my EV on Wednesday, arriving in the early afternoon. Stopped for a coffee and a quick charge on route. The Blue route, taken by campervans, was empty with no delays. I arrived at Love Fields and was soon installed in my yurt. Love Fields has installed a large building, called The Barn, replacing the Teepee for breakfasts and meals. Breakfasts served downstairs, and cocktails upstairs. The bar and stage area lower down the fields were still in place.
Met up with Ed, Mary, her brother, and Jon while they were still on shift at the Silver Hayes area. Afterwards we had a few drinks, and then watched the opening fireworks. This evening we wandered around spending time in the Green Fields. I was back in Love Fields at 4am.
Thursday
Some bands were playing today in the small venues. I started off at the Rabbit Hole, watching Prima Queen, and then spent most of my time at the Bread and Roses, listening to small bands, such as Duo, The Love Buzz, Frankie Morrow, N’Famady Kouyate. I rushed over to the Southwest corner to see some metal, but the place was so packed I gave up and returned to the principal areas. It’s a shame I somehow missed the Vlure playing at Bread and Roses. Not to worry, the Glasgow band was playing again on another day.
Friday
The main days of the festival open. I started off with an exercise class run by Joe Wicks. Twenty-five minutes, plus a warmup session beforehand. I met up with Ed and Mary, it was their day off. After a while I went my own way and headed to West Holts stage. It is my favourite area, good cider, decent food and good music. I watched Louis Cole, Young Fathers and the headline act Kelis.
Saturday
The first band of the day was The Last Dinner Party at Woodsies (the new name for the John Peel Stage). Here I met Mark and his daughter. They were standing two rows in front of me. After this show I rushed back to the Greenpeace Stage to watch N’Famady Kouyate., again. He was playing five shows during Glastonbury and had won the emerging talent show at the Pilton Working Mens Club. Then it was Sudan Archives before rushing over to see Vlure at BBC Introducing. At the Other Stage, I watched the Manic Street Preachers, Plenty of room. Next for me was Guns and Roses on the Pyramid stage. I was disheartened because the area looked full for Lizzo. But after Lizzo finished, space opened up and I was able to find room in front of the barrier. Despite the reviews, the show was enjoyable, the crowd were ecstatic. Rumours circulated that Paul McCartney may come on to sing Live and Let Die. This did not happen. Shame it would have been a nice touch. After the headline act, I went on over to The Glade to watch the The Steve Hillage Band.
Sunday
Already I was nearing the end of the festival. First off was a hike up to the Crow’s Nest to see Professor Alice Robers with Rebecca Wragg Sykes talk about early humans and archaeology. Now back to normal, The Chicks at the Pyramid Stage, Bird on the Wire: The Songs of Leonard Cohen at the Acoustic Stage, followed by a fabulous show by Toyah Willcox and Robert Fripp. I wasn’t going to miss the Mongolian Metal band, The Hu, at the West Holts. Saw them at Download. I then watched Barrington Levy at West Holts and headed over to the Other Stage to see the end of The War On Drugs and finally Queens of the Stone Age. It was a shame for the The War On Drugs, when so many people left to get to the Pyramid Stage to watch Elton John. Queens of the Stone Age were excellent.
Monday
Pack up and leave. Join the queue on Pylle Road. This can be slow as the mobile homes are allowed out onto the road from the same exit. It took me an hour to go the few miles. Once I was on the A37, there was no problem. I did hear that some people leaving the festival from the main car parks were held up for 7 hours. I count myself lucky. What I don’t understand is that despite all the walking, I seemed to put on a kilo.
We have been visiting Glastonbury Abbey Extravaganza for several years, missing the COVID years when music festivals were forbidden. R enjoys it, camping for two nights, and a half day of music is enough for her. The campsite is getting busier, the early arriving vans were packed tight to ensure there was enough room for all the booked vans. Those arriving later had more than enough room and were spaced further apart. Tents are now in a different field, and cars parked in yet another area.
It is a basic site, there are the Glastonbury Festival long drops, a breakfast van, and water points and a hand basin. So, Friday was the drive to Glastonbury, parking and (much against my better judgement) decorating the van. I walked up the Tor for a pleasant view of Hinkley Point nuclear power stations and the world’s largest crane called “Big Karl”. This year I also managed to see the Pyramid Stage. On previous occasions I had not looked in the correct direction.
Saturday, the day of the Extravaganza, we walked into Glastonbury along the main road, and then up Wells Road to the East of the Abbey grounds. Along Abbey Road there are quite a few stone plaques describing the history of strategic locations. We walked along the High Street visiting some of the shops, having a coffee and ordering an Italian picnic box for supper. We made our traditional visit to the “The Who’d A Thought It” pub for lunch. There is a lovely mural painted on the wall of the house opposite. So much detail goes into the picture. You also have the odd procession walking down the street to complete the Glastonbury scene.
We queued early for entrance to the Extravaganza, so we could get a reasonable position, once our place had been located in the queue, I went back to the Italian Deli and picked up our supper box.
Once inside we seated ourselves a little distance back from the stage, located along the path which goes from one side to the other. Spectators around us were setting up huge meals and breaking open the bubbly. We consumed a few pints of beer and Pims from the bar.
The music started with the Black Dyke Band, followed by Seasick Steve and then Paloma Faith. She did turn up to sing this year. Paloma had been booked to play in 2018. She had turned up but did not perform because of laryngitis when Michael Eavis flew in Tom Odell. an excellent replacement. He had been called up during a family BBQ supper and flown by helicopter to Glastonbury. R not keen on Ms Faith, preferring Tom Odell & Rodney Branigan.
The usual firework display finished the evening’s entertainment, and then we were whisked off by coach back to to the campsite.
Next day, I was up at 4am to walk up Glastonbury Tor to catch the sunrise and hopefully to meet Michelle Cowbourne a photographer, who walks up there most days to photograph the sunrise. I did not find her, she had been there, but from lower down the Tor. There were many people there waiting for sunrise. It was a lovely morning, mist in the fields with the golden orb of the sun shining.
I departed and made my way back down for breakfast.
We packed up quickly and headed over to see Sue and Ken for lunch. Being a tad early we made a short visit to a National Trust house called Lytes Cary Manor. It is a house you can hire as a holiday let but it does allow visitors around the gardens and chapel. It was a short visit, so we were soon on our way for lunch at the Old Inn.
Glastonbury festival goes so fast. This was already the last day. I had heard that George Ezra was doing a ‘secret set’ on the John Peel Stage. He was the third band playing. I wanted to see him and get up close, so decided to head on over there and watch the previous two bands. I did not want a repeat of Thursday where I had tried to get to see Bastille at Williams Green and failed to even get into Williams Green.
Just Mustard, John Peel 11:15 12:00
I arrived at the John Peel Stage and managed to get to the crowd barrier at the front of the stage, slightly to the right. I should get an excellent view from here. I had to watch Just Mustard play, a band from Dundalk in Ireland.
Sports Team, John Peel 12:30 13:30
The next band was Sports Team, an alternative rock band based in London. They met while they were studying at the University of Cambridge, often playing at the Portland Arms. The lead vocalist Alex Rice managed some crowd surfing and climbing the tent support. A remarkably interesting act.
George Ezra, John Peel 14:00 15:00
Now it was George Ezra. I was slightly pissed off because about 60 George Ezra groupies were herded into the photographers’ pit, with the barrier being moved towards the centre of the stage. My view was now restricted! Damn. His set was fine, I have some reasonable photographs and video of him. There must have been huge crowds outside the tent, because after the show it took me a very long time to get out of the John Peel area.
Six-minute video of the George Ezra show. This features four songs, Budapest, Listen to the Man, Shotgun and Pretty Shining People.
Search for Mary and Ed
Having escaped the mayhem of the John Peel Stage, I decided to meet up with Ed and Mary. Eventually I met them at Williams Green where we had a few drinks. Still tasteless beer, Covid has a lot to answer for. We headed to the Pyramid Stage to see the last few minutes of Elbow playing. It is remarkably easy to get reasonably close by walking down the matting track in the centre, down to the mixing booths. Must remember that for next year.
Elbow, Pyramid Stage 17:45-18:45
The Bootleg Beatles, Acoustic Stage 18:30-19:30
We all headed up to the Acoustic Stage to see the Boot Leg Beatles. After which Ed and Mary had to go to work, so I left for the West Holts stage.
Another day started. No queues for showers, and yet again an excellent breakfast at The Love Fields. Yes, I ate a full English, but also breakfasted on a couple of large excellent pastries. I was spoilt. I headed down to West Holts, where I spent the early part of the day.
Kikagaku Moyo – West Holts 11:30 12.30
First up was a Japanese band who played easy listening music. A few members of their entourage came out into the pit to watch. Later on, some of the band members came out to watch other bands.
Brass Against – West Holts 13.00 14.00
Brass Against is a collective group of musicians who share the goal of creating music to inspire social and personal change. The band curates songs from a variety of influences from Tool, Rage Against the Machine, Soundgarden, Black Sabbath, Run the Jewels as well as their own compositions in a heavy brass filled symphony.
This Is a Work Event
After Brass Against finished playing, I had a message from Rosemary about a flag seen flying, ‘This is a Work Event’. It just so happened to be in the West Holts crowd. Rushed on over to the flag, and cajoled is owners to photograph me holding it. Interestingly it disappeared in 15 minutes, and I never saw it again.
Black Midi West Holts 14:30 15:30
After the picture opportunity I went back to watch Black Midi, an English rock band from London, formed in 2017 by Geordie Greep, Cameron Picton, Matt Kwasniewski-Kelvin and Morgan Simpson.
Glass Animals Other Stage 17:15 18:15
Finished at West Holts and walked over to watch Glass Animals on the Other Stage. I was far, far away and did not have an unobstructed view. Watched them for a few minutes before attempting to meet up with Ed and Mary who had gone their separate ways. Tracked them down to the Williams Green and had a pint of beer with them before we headed over to the Pyramid Stage.
Noel Gallagher’s High Flying Birds, Pyramid Stage 19:15 21:00
We met up with Jon watching Noel Gallagher. It is quite easy to get down in front of the mixing consoles, there is a path in the centre of the arena from the back to the mixing decks.
Ralph McTell Acoustic stage 20:00 21:00
After Noel, we headed to the Acoustic Tent. We had quite an advantageous position to see Ralph McTell. Managed to grab a video of him singing his famous Streets of London
Glastonbury 2022 - Ralph McTell
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Glastonbury 2022 - Ralph McTell
The Waterboys Acoustic Stage 21:30 – 23:00
The final band on the Acoustic Stage was The Waterboys. The Waterboys are a folk-rock band formed in Edinburgh in 1983 by Scottish musician Mike Scott. The band’s membership, past and present, has been composed of musicians from Scotland, Ireland, Wales and England.
Theatre and Circus
I spent much of the late evening walking around the circus and theatre area, watching many walkabout acts, before finally watching a show at the Circus Tent, Briefs Bite Club, I had great expectations for the show, but it did turn out to be rather tedious.
After a good breakfast, I walked down to the West Holts Stage. The West Holts tends to play Jazz, and World Music. It is one of the major stages of Glastonbury, and not overly crowded. You can easily get to the front, or just relax sitting on the grass. The stage is well provided with food and drink. The famous Brothers Bar and also the Goan Fish Curry stall are located on either side of the stage. The West Holts stage is also one of the few stages where they have artist signings.
Nubiyan Twist, West Holts 11.30 12.30
The first band today was Nubiyan Twist. They describe themselves as a UK Afro-Jazz 9-piece band lead by Tom Excell, fusing groove driven music with sound system culture and improvisation.
Nova Twins, Greenpeace 12:30 13:15
Having enjoyed watching the Nova Twins the previous day, I tried to go and watch them again at the Greenpeace Stage. A very short walk from West Holts. I was able to get up close to the barrier and grab some close-up pictures. This was a totally different experience to last night, a far tamer crowd more worried about climate change than moshing.
John Peel Stage
I walked over to the John Peel Stage, quite a trek and watched a couple of bands playing, Girl in Red, followed by Sigrid.
Robert Plant & Alison Krauss 18:15 19.15
Walking from the John Peel stage, along the track high up on the pyramid stage field, I spotted Robert Plant and Alison Krauss finishing their set. The crowd was thin, so I walked down to the edge to take some photographs.
Bonobo, West Holts 20.20 21.30
Back at West Holts there was an excellent set by Bonobo. Their music is soothing, combining club music with world music delving into jazz.
Little Simz West Holts 22.15- 23.45
The final band, the headline act on West Holts was Little Simz, a black woman rapper. I’m not particularly into rap, but she was good and got the crowd moving. As you can see, I was on the rail at the front, much to the annoyance of the younger generation around me. What was amusing, I received a DM tweet from Mark, someone I worked with years ago. During the performance, this tweet appeared, telling me I had been spotted on the Little Simz set. His daughter and wife had been watching the live set on BBC THREE. Yes, that is me with the hat, next to the rabbit.
On Thursday, the main stages have not opened, but some of the smaller stages get going during the afternoon. There are hordes of people crowded around the bars, and it can be quite a fight to get a drink. So, I did not bother. This year I drank extraordinarily little and carried around a few cans in my backpack to keep hydrated. Beer had temporarily lost its lustre for me, I could not taste the difference between cider, ale and lager, they all tasted the same, sweet water. COVID had caused me to lose my sense of taste. It was the same with the food, the delicious offerings tempted me very little. I tried, but nothing tasted as it should.
After a full British breakfast and some exploring, I headed to the Rabbit Hole. It is in The Park, which is terribly busy on a Thursday with Stonebridge bar doing roaring trade. I waited until the Rabbit Hole opened and watched three bands. The Rabbit Hole is a small tent with a small bar, DJ set and stage. Many famous musicians come here late at night. (I have yet to see one!) The Rabbitt Hole used to be further up the hill and required a little effort to reach it. The last two Glastonburys have seen it move down into the main area of the Park.
Thursday was a very sunny day, and I had forgotten to put suncream on my face and arms, so finding venues undercover was a promising idea.
I had come to see Sofy, a band from the Glastonbury Emerging Talent competition. They were well worth the wait.
Lewis Mclaughlin, Rabbit Hole 15:00-15.30
Beans on Toast, Truth Stage 18:20-19.00
After grabbing some lunch in The Park, I headed over to the Truth Stage in Shangri-La to see Beans on Toast. Beans on Toast is a singer songwriter who produces an album every year and is rumoured to have played Glastonbury more than anyone else. He will be playing at the Cambridge Folk Festival this year. His songs are political and easily sing-along-able.
Williams Green TBA 19:45-20:25
The Glastonbury programme always has several TBAs. The TBAs are the unannounced bands who will be playing. The secret for Glastonbury organisers is to spread the word to a few people to get someone along to watch the band. Sometimes this goes wrong, and the word is spread everywhere, and thousands of people descend on the stage. The secret sets are from quite high-profile bands. I had subscribed to a twitter account which announced the rumours, so I knew Bastille would be playing at Williams Green. I tried to get to Williams Green. The whole area was cordoned off, the crowds were dense. I got through the cordon, but nowhere near the stage. I gave it up as a bad cause and eventually headed back to the Truth Stage. If you want to see a TBA, get there at least while the previous band is playing, or better still the band before. I remember watching the band Pulp years back because I had heard a rumour. I had a good place to watch the band, but the Park Stage was also cordoned off long before the band started to play. So many people had descended on the stage.
Pigs Pigs Pigs Pigs Pigs Pigs Pigs, Truth Stage 20:30-21:15
I arrived to see the punk band Pigs Pigs …Pigs. and watched from the back.
Nova Twins (EARCHE) Truth Stage 21.45-22.30
After the 7 pigs, the crowd thinned, and I was able to get nearer the stage for the Nova Twins. They put on one fantastic show. I would go and watch them again at the Greenpeace Stage the next day. The crowd was wild, I did edge back a little to remain out of the mosh pit.